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Showing posts with label ascents. Show all posts

Sunday, November 1, 2020

Research article looking at climber ability and route difficulties by Dean Scarff

Dean Scarff made me kindly aware about his extremely interesting arXiv article Estimation of Climbing Route Difficulty usingWhole-History Rating. In this paper Dean estimates rock climber ratings and route difficulties using the “Whole-History Rating” based on data of the rock climbing site www.thecrag.com. The “Whole-History Rating” is a player rating which is an adaption of the Bradley - Terry model. I have to admit, I knew neither of them but I have worked with Elo ratings before (looking at soccer). In the past, I also wrote a paper looking at (changing) inequality of the allocation of player talentacross soccer clubs in German based on estimated player ratings (together with Roman Sittl). This is why I am delighted to see such approaches now being applied to rock climbing.

What is really nice is firstly that the topic is in my view extremely interesting, not only for research but for the sport itself. Secondly, the code seems to be fully available on GitHub. Thirdly, the estimated route difficulties are visually contrasted to the true (Australian) grades, as shown in the following figure further below from the paper. It looks quite reasonable (the large variance is perhaps a little bit irritating but that might just be a few very extreme observations for each grade). Fourthly, what is extremely interesting is the fact that www.thecrag.com dataset also seems to covers “No go’s” or unsuccessful climbing ascents (in contrast to the 8a.nu data). This is something I personally collect for my own ascents but I never have seen someone else collecting it. This really allows to estimate the player and route ratings soundly. Finally, the methodological description is short but seems solid (but I have not thought everything through as I would if I had to peer-review the article).

Some feedback for improvement the paper from my side would be the following: Firstly, the paper is extremely short (which is common in computer science as far as I know) but a little bit more information here and there would be helpful in my view (e.g. about the Australian Ewbank grade system in comparison to the French or US grade system or about the underlying dataset). Secondly and more importantly, I would love to see in the end some more climbing-related interpretation – perhaps even contrasting the route rating and the successful / unsuccessful player ratings attempting that route for a well-known Australian route. I say that because it would demonstrate that such an algorithm is not just interesting for research per se but might, for example, be used as supporting evidence in a grading dispute etc. Thirdly, a minor point, do one really needs climber's ability to vary on a weekly level since on average climbers performance seems to be rather constant after a few years?

But I only say that because I think the article is great and I would like to see more! Thanks Dean. 

In general, if you have any interesting rock climbing related research for me, please make me aware of it!  


 

Saturday, January 11, 2020

First Ascentionists Over Time (Female and Male)

I have always been interested in the history of rock climbing. Lately, I tried to collect data about male and female first ascentionists to visualize climbing progression over tine. However, it turned out difficult to find a lot of data (particularly for female climbers). An exception to the rule is this really nice site http://stara.emontana.cz/climbing-milestones-from-6a-to-9c/  from which I got a lot of information.

It would be great if someone could point me to further sources, and help me correcting the existing data! I find it particularly difficult to get information about, among others,

  • first onsights and flashes (who was the first to onsight 8a or flash 8b+?)
  • first successful female and male bouldering ascents
  • early first female ascents (does anyone know who did the first female 7a?)
  • 'first' second ascents (who did the second 8c in the world?)
For routes with disputed gradings, such as Chilam Balam first redpointed by Bernabè Fernandez in 2003, I took the majority grade by all repeaters (9a+/9b in that case).

Graphs below, data (including sources) is available here via Google Spreadsheet or via ClimbStat GitHub (here you can also find the R-code to create the individual graphs. They have been merged together externally to one GIF). Further below you can find an excerpt.





Year Ascensionist Route Grade (YDS) Grade (French) Sex Confirmed?
1979  Lynn Hill Ophir Broke 5.12d 7c female Yes
1985  Catherine Destivelle Fleur de Rocaille 5.12d/5.13a 7c+/8a female Yes
1986  Luisa Iovane Comeback 5.13b 8a female Yes
1988  Catherine Destivelle Chouca 5.13c 8a+ female Yes
1988  Isabelle Patissier Sortileges 5.13d 8b female Yes
1990  Lynn Hill Masse Critique 5.14a 8b+ female Yes
1998  Josune Bereziartu Honky Tonky 5.14b 8c female Yes
2000  Josune Bereziartu Honky Tonk Mix 5.14c 8c+ female Yes
2002  Josune Bereziartu Bain de Sang 5.14d 9a female Yes
2005  Josune Bereziartu Bimbaluna 5.14d/5.15a 9a/9a+ female Yes
2017  Margo Hayes La Rambla Extension 5.15a 9a+ female Yes
2017  Angela Eiter La planta de shiva 5.15b 9b female Yes
1961  John Gill Thimble 5.12a 7a+ male Yes
1967  Greg Lowe Macabre Roof 5.12c 7b+ male Yes
1970  John Gosling English Hanging Gardens 5.12b 7b male Yes
1975  Steve Wunsch Psycho Roof 5.12d 7c male Yes
1977  Ray Jardine The Phoenix 5.13a 7c+ male Yes
1979  Tony Yaniro Grand Illusion 5.13b 8a male Yes
1983  Jerry Moffatt The Face 5.13c 8a+ male Yes
1984  Wolfgang Güllich Kanal im Rücken 5.13d 8b male Yes
1985  Wolfgang Güllich Punks in the Gym 5.14a 8b+ male Yes
1986  Antoine Le  Menestrel La Ravage 5.14a/5.14b 8b+/8c male Yes
1987  Wolfgang Güllich Wallstreet 5.14b 8c male Yes
1990  Ben Moon Hubble 5.14c 8c+ male Yes
1991  Wolfgang Güllich Action Directe 5.14d 9a male Yes
1995  Fred Rouhling Akira 5.15b 9b male No
1996  Alex Huber Open Air 5.15a 9a+ male Yes
2003  Bernabè Fernandez Chilam Balam 5.15a/5.15b 9a+/9b male Yes
2012  Adam Ondra Change 5.15c 9b+ male No
2017  Adam Ondra Silence 5.15d 9c male No

Tuesday, December 11, 2018

What is the average difficulty of a climbing route?

In this post, we will take a look at rock climbing ascents recorded in the 8a.nu data (or to be more precise their grades). This post is about approximately 2.7 m ascents, often multiple ascents by one climber (we will look in a future post at the maximum climbing performance of climbers).

The following graph shows the French grade distribution of all ascents:


What is immediate obvious is that the distribution is not symmetric. First, there are few ascents below the French grade of 6a. We second find a remarkable uniform number of records between 6c and 6c+. The most number of entries is for 7a (or 5.11d) routes. Most 8a.nu user climber probably rather well and are reluctant to enter ascents below 7a in the database.

Here the same plot truncated below 7a and with percentages of ascents (7a and higher).


Interestingly, there are more French 8a routes recorded than 7c+, and a noticeable drop from 8a to 8a+. A possible explanation is that the French 8a grade could constitute a reference. Climbers might put more effort and try more 8a routes than either 7c+ or 8a+ (and perhaps are first ascenders more willing to grade a route 8a). This would also explain the large share of 7a routes compared to 7a+ (and perhaps 6c+). But perhaps there are other explanations I am not aware of? It is also worth mentioning that there is no spike at 9a, perhaps because of greater scrutiny?


 

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